Obama Just Doesn't Get It – Immigration Standoff and Elections

Editor’s Note – “Elections have consequences,” remember that Obama quote? Apparently only when he and his team win!

Obama just doesn’t get how things must work by law and Constitution – either consciously or by complete disregard. It has always been his way or the highway where negotiation is never done in an honest manner and compromise means “I will sign it, if it meets my needs.” People keep echoing that Congress must do the work of the people, but it is Obama who is in the way.

Last Tuesday America voted – completely repudiating his policies – yet Obama traipses on as if he was the one who received the mandate. In this lame-duck period in Congress, he expects sweeping, comprehensive legislation on immigration, yet America voted otherwise and does not want the current Senate to control this ‘end times’ effort.

So what does Obama threaten – yes, Executive action. America, this is a very well-crafted article and worthy of a complete read. It spells out what Boehner and the House was always up against – a stone wall.

Boehner Warns Obama Against Unilateral Action on Immigration

The House Speaker and the President Held a Year of Confidential Talks on Immigration That Ended in Failure This Summer

By CAROL E. LEE and PETER NICHOLAS – WSJ Online

Two days after his party’s midterm romp, House Speaker John Boehner became the second leading Republican to warn that unilateral action by President Barack Obama on immigration would “poison the well” for any cooperation with the new GOP Congress.

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Among the causes of the standoff: a year of previously unreported talks between Messrs. Boehner and Obama over a legislative compromise to fix the balky immigration system.

The two men started talking after the 2012 election, according to detailed accounts provided by several aides on both sides. The discussions ended this summer with the two sitting stony-faced around a white wrought-iron table outside the Oval Office.

“When you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself,” Mr. Boehner said Thursday of possible unilateral immigration action by the president. “And he’s going to burn himself if he continues to go down this path.”

Sen. Mitch McConnell , the Kentucky Republican who is expected to lead the GOP’s new Senate majority, made similar admonitions a day earlier, setting the Republican legislative and Democratic executive agendas on a collision course. The immigration issue stands to imperil what had looked like a rare opportunity offered to find common ground on trade and business taxes, among other matters.

Mr. Obama vowed in his Wednesday postelection news conference to move ahead on immigration by himself, making changes that people close to the process say could give safe harbor to perhaps a few million people in the U.S. illegally.

At the White House, the question isn’t whether Mr. Obama will act but how sweeping his order will be. He is under intense pressure from immigration activists, who worry he will back down because of the election results or to avoid antagonizing the GOP.

Obama and Boehner in 2012 - negotiation outcome, read the body language.
Obama and Boehner in 2012 – negotiation outcome? Read the body language.

The White House isn’t ruling out an immigration deal with Congress before the next president takes office in 2017, and one remains possible. But in the eyes of many of those involved in the talks, the Obama-Boehner discussions were the last, best chance to reach an agreement.

Mr. Obama promised on Wednesday to rescind any executive action if Congress later passes legislation. Few think it is likely to. In outlining their plans for the year, neither Mr. Boehner nor Mr. McConnell put immigration on the agenda. In fact, if Mr. Obama goes through with an executive action, there will likely be a congressional effort to undo it.

The president and the House speaker started talking with some optimism after Congress’s bid to overhaul immigration ran aground in summer 2013, according to aides. They agreed to some confidence-building measures and bonded over a shared passion for golf.

Few people deny the scale of the immigration challenge, with about 11 million people in the U.S. illegally. Both sides had reason to keep the process alive. Hispanic supporters of Mr. Obama were growing impatient and resented record deportations. Some Republicans were seeking a fresh approach, especially after their 2012 election defeat, in which they fared poorly with Hispanics.

In an early sign of success, Mr. Boehner asked the president not to criticize Republicans on the issue, fearing this would antagonize lawmakers skeptical of an overhaul. Mr. Obama agreed, and a series of 2013 trips to battleground states with heavy Hispanic populations that had been considered never happened.

After several phone conversations, Mr. Obama agreed in November to seek a piecemeal overhaul rather than one bill as long as together it accomplished the goals of a broader bill. Democrats wanted the latter, but breaking it up would make the idea more palatable to the GOP.

They even batted around ideas for tackling the thorniest aspect: a so-called path to citizenship, which outlines the requirements illegal immigrants must meet to secure their place in the country.

More often, however, the two men talked past one another, aides said. Mr. Boehner told colleagues that he found it hard to squeeze a word in, and that Mr. Obama didn’t grasp how Washington works. Mr. Obama and White House officials grew skeptical that Mr. Boehner could sell any deal to House Republicans.

In January, Mr. Boehner asked the president to stop signing executive orders on other issues, such as the minimum wage, while they worked on a deal. The speaker thought such a gesture might appease Republican lawmakers accusing Mr. Obama of abusing presidential power.

“We can’t move forward on this when there’s mistrust about whether or not you’re going to enforce the laws that we pass,” Mr. Boehner told the president.

Some of the president’s aides thought it was a phony excuse. They thought the speaker couldn’t come through with the needed votes.

Mr. Obama offered Mr. Boehner what he saw as a compromise: The White House would defer executive action on immigration until after the summer to give the speaker maneuvering room, a deal Mr. Obama confirmed in his Wednesday news conference.

Obama is reportedly much better at negotiating than golf, ask Michael Jordan.
Obama is reportedly much better at negotiating than golf, ask Michael Jordan.

In the discussion, however, he followed up with his go-to talking point in dealings with Mr. Boehner: “There will never be another Republican president again if you don’t get a handle on immigration reform.”

Mr. Boehner resented getting advice from a Democratic president on how to make Republicans a viable political force. What he wanted was more specific: A strategy to build a coalition in the House that could pass a bill.

It became increasingly common, aides said, for Mr. Boehner to hang up the phone with Mr. Obama and sigh: “He just doesn’t get it.” Senior White House officials, for their part, saw Mr. Boehner as a leader perpetually vulnerable to being deposed. House conservatives wanted tougher border security, not millions of new citizens.

Former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle, who has close ties to the White House, described both men as working within tight limits. He described Mr. Boehner as having a fragile hold on his leadership position. As for the president, “he is not real comfortable in terms of building relationships with people he has substantial disagreements with.”

On a personal level, their conversations remained friendly. In September 2013, when Mr. Boehner was at the White House to discuss Syria, cameras caught the speaker gesturing with his wrist while deep in discussion with the president. Aides later explained Mr. Boehner had strained a tendon and couldn’t hit a golf ball as hard as he wanted.

A White House social invitation offered to Boehner—a Professional Golfers’ Association event in the East Room this June—was a turning point.

The speaker requested a meeting with the president before the event. That got the White House’s attention. Previously, it was Mr. Obama who initiated contact.

Seated around a table outside the Oval Office, Mr. Boehner told Mr. Obama that the window for passing legislation was as narrow as it gets. His caucus was rattled by a child-refugee crisis on the Mexico border and the primary defeat of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor , in which immigration played a part.

During the 15-minute conversation, Mr. Boehner also informed Mr. Obama the House planned to file a lawsuit over his use of executive authority.

“Now you’re suing me?” Mr. Obama said to the speaker.

The following day Mr. Boehner announced his lawsuit. A week later, Mr. Obama publicly declared any change to the immigration system dead for the year. He blamed Mr. Boehner.

—Laura Meckler contributed to this article.

Negotiating with our enemies, not our representatives?

By Scott W. Winchell (SUA Editor) and Denise Simon (Associate Editor)

When your first statement in a negotiation is that you are not going to negotiate, how does that make it a negotiation and how is the other side doing something wrong as it tries to negotiate? “No negotiating…” “Not gonna happen…” “…this is not how a Democracy works…” – Obama today in a speech about the debt ceiling, the budget, and Obama Care – government shutdown is yours Mr. Obama, because you do not negotiate, you do not have a budget!

This is all being said and done as the current administration has embarked on negotiating with Iran, negotiating with the Palestinians, negotiating with the Russians over Syria, but you cannot negotiate with the people’s elected representatives?

By the way Mr. President, this is not a democracy, we are a Representative Republic with a Constitution, just a reminder as you lambaste Congress, or more precisely, House Republicans and the Tea Party as if they were not being Constitutional.

TeaPartyParadeThen, in the process of so-called negotiating, we have one question for you Mr. President, where is the people’s budget? These incessant continuing resolutions (CRs) are your fault, not the fault of Republicans in the House or the Senate.

You have sent uproarious budgets to Congress that even your party’s minions could not pass but everyone else is wrong? So to avoid the further embarrassment of losing 0-100 on the Senate floor, your party has decided to rule by fiat and CR.

Nancy Pelosi calls the Tea Party "arsonists"
Nancy Pelosi calls the Tea Party “arsonists”

You tell the country, and its echoed by the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, that its the Tea Party’s fault. The last I looked, the Tea Party people are American citizens who voted for a certain candidate to carry out there wishes.

You call them anarchists, arsonists, kidnappers, “tea baggers“, the cult fringe, suicide bombers, and other derogatory names and then you excoriate our representatives as if they were petulant children. In fact, your Vice President calls us terrorists as does Bill Clinton – really?

The same week as the Nairobi attack, and the same time you open dialogue with a terrorist state called the Islamic Republic of Iran that is creating nuclear weapons?

You sir, and others, owe the American people an apology – how dare you castigate the very citizenry you were elected to lead while currying favor with our enemies? Blaming others is just another indicator of how bad a leader you are and what a farce you are on the international stage. You do not get your way, so you stomp on the ground, pound the podium, and read excoriating diarrhea from your teleprompter to adoring crowds that is in no way numerous enough for you to claim any mandate.

Each House Representative was elected by a majority of approximately 700-800,000 citizens that comprise each of the 435 districts in the United States. That means at least half of those voters lean toward or are actual Tea Party members if their representative calls themselves as part of the Tea Party Caucus. But that does not stop the name-calling, the innuendos, the gutter talk, the blatant maligning of a very large group of fellow citizens.

Instead, and many of us remember it vividly, your party forced this Obama Care/ACA abomination down our throats in 2010, by hook and crook and even through bribery, ask Mary Landrieu, et al. You had control of both houses of Congress and you had to cheat to get your way to victory on passing the ACA and now that America is pushing back, you divide and polarize the nation. See a comprehensive list of the bribery here. The worst was watching Mary Landrieu call Obama Care the ‘law of the land’ on the Senate floor today – one of the holdouts in 2010 who had to be bribed to vote for the ACA.

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Obama mocks the GOP in a speech today over the possible shutdown of the federal government

You have the bully pulpit yet you cast the blame all the way back to Bush again. That is why your party took a shellacking in 2010 and the people elected representatives that reflect their views – and they view Obama Care as a complete failure that is tearing this nation apart.

In addition now, seems its time to bash Fox News again – the most watched TV news network for the past 13 years. So now, you insult that very large demographic? Again? What a “uniter”! Shameful! The only one practicing ‘brinkmanship’ is you, the Democrats – and the “manufactured crisis” is your tool, used frequently – yet you blame the right. That is guilt transference.

Boehner Ad Attacks Obama for Negotiating With Putin, but Not Congress

By Dan Weil – Newsmax

House Speaker John Boehner criticized President Barack Obama Thursday for negotiating with Russia over Syria but refusing to strike a deal with Congress over the debt ceiling. The attack came in an Internet video.

“The Obama administration on working with Congress to address the debt and deficit,” the ad reads. Then it shows the president and top White House officials saying they won’t negotiate with Republicans on the debt ceiling.

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“The Obama administration on working with [Russian President Vladimir] Putin on Syria,” the ad continues before showing the president and his team talking about negotiations with Russia over Syria’s chemical weapons.

“Why is the Obama administration willing to negotiate with Putin on Syria, but not with Congress to address Washington’s spending problem?” it asks.

House Republican leaders want to add various provisions, including a one-year delay in the Affordable Care Act, to a bill that would raise the nation’s debt ceiling. But the president has insisted on a bill raising the nation’s borrowing limit that is free of amendments.

The debt limit must be raised by mid-October or the government will be unable to pay its bills, according to the Treasury Department.
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