House Oversight Calls for Obama to Fire IRS Commissioner

Editor’s Note – The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee sent a letter to President Obama, he who has declared that there was not even a ‘smidgeon‘ of corruption demanding he fire IRS Commissioner  John Kostkinen:

Twenty-one Republicans on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Monday sent President Obama a 30-page letter calling for him to fire Internal Revenue Service Commissioner John Koskinen, citing his “failure to preserve and produce documentation” to the committee investigating the controversy over alleged political targeting. (Read more here at National Journal.)

Read the letter here and scroll down to the third video below to watch the committee’s video compilation.KostkinenFiredImpeach

Well that ‘smidgeon’ now looks like much more than a scandal, or even corruption, it now looks felonious in the highest degree. Remember that Obama doubled down when interviewed by Jon Stewart of the Daily Show in his final appearance on that show because Stewart retires soon.

HotAir.com’s Ed Morrissey had this to say about the Chairman of the oversight committee, Jason Caffetz openly calling for Obama to fire the IRS Commissioner, John Kostkinen:

Consider just how frustrating conducting oversight of the IRS must have been over the last two years. The previous leadership conducted politically motivated targeting of the opposition to the administration, and then the replacement leadership has done everything it can do to stonewall Congressional investigation of the agency. (Read more at HotAir.)

Chaffetz spoke on Greta Van Susteren’s show last night on Fox News and you can see that interview below, along with two others reviewing the history of the IRS Scandal, the one that Democrats still refuse to call a scandal as they assail Republicans accusing them of continuing to conduct a circus for political gain.

GretaKostkinenRemember how often the Democrats said there was ‘no there, there’, and made a farce out of their job which is supposed to be about defending their constituents from a rogue agency turned into a weapon for the left’s political gain.

We agreed when Speaker of the House Boehner said:

“When someone asked me the question, well, who should be fired? I said I don’t know — I don’t care who is going to be fired. I want to know who is going to jail” way back in April of 2014.

Now we learn that it is even worse, all while the President plays it down.

Chairman Chaffetz’s fury was well-warranted and all Americans should be the same, right or left, and should be thankful that this investigation was not ended long ago as Ranking Member Elijah Cummings demanded back in June of 2013only to walk it back a few days later saying it was ‘not solved yet’. But Cummings keeps the charade alive:

Cummings added, “Calls for Commissioner Koskinen to step down are nothing more than a manufactured Republican political crisis based on allegations that have already been debunked.” (Read more here at National Journal.)

Then we learned in 2014 just how complicit Cummings was when it all started, long before we knew who Lois Lerner was. But as Morrissey continues, impeachment may not be the best course of action because Kostkinen seems to be doing the bidding of the White House in blocking the investigation:

The real problem in this scandal isn’t Koskinen, but the White House that’s directing his actions. Oversight might do better by continuing to demand Koskinen’s public testimony, and give a continuing example of the arrogance of the Obama administration. That might go farther toward Koskinen’s exit than an impeachment exercise.

You be the judge and as “Republican Rep. Cynthia Lummis implored reporters “to watch the video over and over again.” You should implore everyone you know to do the same.

Chaffetz: IRS Commissioner John Koskinen Should Be Fired And Impeached

By Katie Pavlich at Townhall

After years of investigation into the IRS targeting of conservative groups House Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz, who took over as chairman after Rep. Darrell Issa earlier this year, has had enough of IRS Commissioner John Koskinen.

Yesterday Chaffetz called on the President to fire Koskinen over allegations of obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence and stonewalling a congressional investigation. He accused Koskinen of lying to Congress when he said last year that backup tapes belonging to former IRS commissioner Lois Lerner, the woman at the center of the targeting scandal, didn’t exist.

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We of course learned shortly after that backup tapes do exist, but that IRS officials didn’t bother looking for them in order to turn them over to Congress for scrutiny. It was later revealed that at least some of the available back-up tapes were destroyed, even after a congressional subpoena for the tapes was issued.

“Congress needs to get more aggressive and stand up for itself. We may hold him in contempt and there are other constitutional remedies that perhaps, one of the things we’re exploring is perhaps impeaching the commissioner,” Chaffetz said last night On The Record. “He [President Obama] should fire Mr. Koskinen because he’s not working with us.”

“We’re going to get to the truth no matter where it is no matter how long this takes. We’re going to get after it,” Chaffetz continued.

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Considering President Obama doesn’t believe the IRS targeting of conservatives is a scandal at all, I doubt he’ll be heeding Chaffetz’ calls. However, Congress does have the power of impeachment. Whether that authority will be exercised under current GOP leadership is a different story.

Last week, former Oversight Chairman Issa revealed the IRS is still engaged in targeting of conservative groups.

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In addition, we have included the following video compilation that was posted at HotAir.com showing the history of the scandal and the testimony in question. “The Republican majority on the House Oversight Committee explains all of the reasons why they have no confidence in Koskinen’s leadership at the IRS in the aforementioned video:”

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IRS – Entrenchment of the Left in Gov, the Rule-of-Law Sacrificed

By Scott W. Winchell, SUA Editor

With the revelations of the lost Lois Lerner emails in the growing IRS Scandal, and the obvious political ideology she infused into her work, it is important to reflect on the general make-up of the body that are largely the employees in federal government in ideological terms. It is not just Lois Lerner.

It’s also people like her former agency’s newest boss, John Koskinen; yes he who donated over $85,000 to liberal candidates over many years now, including Obama twice, at least.

You could see it in IRS Commissioner John Koskinen’s arrogance as well as he testified. Allen West summed it up well in his recent article entitled “Koskinen illustrates primary job qualification for Obama administration: arrogance”:Koskinen Arrogance

The real issue is not the IRS scandal in and of itself, or actually any isolated scandal – because there are too many to count at this point. The issue is the abject arrogance of officialdom exhibited by the Obama administration as aided by the complicit liberal progressive media — and the über-partisan ignorance of the progressive socialist acolytes.

Computer crashes?  Meet the others at the IRS whose computers crashed. Beyond Lois Lerner, and as we reported yesterday, Nikole Flax, there was Michelle Eldridge, IRS national media relations chief, Agent Kimberly Kitchens, Agent Nancy Heagney, Agent Julie Chen, and Supervisory Agent, Tyler Chumny. (Read here from the Daily Caller on these characters.) More supporters of Obama, especially Kitchens as far as we know.

The newest revelation is that the EPA also lost emails; crucial to current litigation.

Why did the EPA release this news now? Because a day earlier, the National Archivist testified that the IRS has broken the law by not reporting lost documents as required. The EPA lost critical emails in a contentious case in Alaska over mining.

“They did not follow the law,” said David Ferriero, the U.S. Archivist who stopped short of saying the tax-collecting agency “broke” the law, saying “I am not a lawyer” in testimony last week. (Read more here at Politico)

Move over, IRS — now the EPA is having its own problems with missing emails. The environmental agency is having trouble locating emails belonging to a former agency employee and pulling information from his crashed hard drive, House members revealed Wednesday while questioning Administrator Gina McCarthy at a hearing on complaints of mismanagement.

“What is it with bureaucrats and public employees … the hard drives crash?” asked Rep. Kerry Bentivolio (R-Mich.). (Read more here.)

Here is an excerpt from The Hill on the EPA revelation:

“We have tried to serve a subpoena on your former employee and we have asked for the failed hard drive from this Alaskan individual who now is in New Zealand, and seems to never be returning,” Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), the committee’s chairman, said Wednesday.

Emails provided by the committee show that EPA told congressional investigators about the hard drive crash months ago. But McCarthy said she only told the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) about the problem Tuesday.

EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy
EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy

The NARA enforces the Federal Records Act, which governs federal agencies’ responsibilities to maintain records.

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) said EPA probably violated the Federal Records Act by not backing up North’s emails.

“It looks like the Federal Records Act has been violated by the EPA,” Meadows said. Did he preserve his emails? That is required by the Federal Records Act.”

“We may have some emails that we cannot produce that we should have kept,” McCarthy admitted.

These are just a few points that demonstrate that the leftists in government are unconcerned with the laws until exposed.

They are hired during Democratically controlled administrations largely, or appointed to head agencies that are growing in liberal dominance in those agencies. Then, if not appointed, once employed, they move up in the system, become decision makers, then determine who gets hired in the future. All to crteate a permanent liberal bias in our federal government.

It has always been the feeling of many that the make-up of federal employees was left-leaning, but in recent years, it is becoming evident that they are now in full control. We reported on a couple of examples in the recent past, especially concerning the hiring of Lawyers. The DHS recently hired a bevy of uber-leftists, and the DoJ is festooned with them.

Lois Lerner and Senator Grassley of Iowa
Lois Lerner and Senator Grassley of Iowa

Let us not forget also, when former EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson created a fake name to use on a personal email account, a practice prohibited by law, to be used for official EPA business.

Richard Windsor never existed at the EPA, but the agency awarded the fictional staffer’s email account certificates proving he had mastered all of the agency’s technology training — including declaring him a “scholar of ethical behavior,” according to documents disclosed late last week.

Windsor.Richard@epa.gov was the controversial email alias used by former Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson, who resigned earlier this year amid questions about whether epa-using-instant-messages-avoid-s/?page=all”>her agency was complying with open-records laws.

SPECIAL COVERAGE: Energy and Environment The new records — the latest in a series that EPA critics have pried loose under open-records requests — suggests Ms. Jackson used the alias even more widely than known, including taking required agency computer training under the fake identity.

Then another revelation emerges. A revelation of epic proportion where Lois Lerner’s ideology is exposed completely.

An email is released, where Lerner, in a knee-jerk reaction, desires to investigate a Senator for the right, Chuck Grassley of Iowa. Why, because an inadvertent, and mistakenly sent email invites Grassley to an event he never even attended because his wife was invited as well and the group offered to offset her expenses if they attended.

Investigators in Congress discovered new emails from Lois Lerner Wednesday revealing the former IRS Exempt Organizations director’s attempt to audit GOP Sen. Chuck Grassley in 2012 over an email mixup.

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We hope that Congressmen like SC-R Trey Gowdy prevail for us, here at the IRS, and in the upcoming Benghazi Select Committee Hearings

According to the Associated Press, Lerner mistakenly received an email invitation to an event in December of that year meant for Grassley, who presumably received Lerner’s.

The invitation from the organizer reportedly included an offer to pay for the attendance of Grassley’s wife, should the two be interested in coming. Upon reading Grassley’s invitation mistakenly sent to Lerner, the IRS official accused of unjustifiably targeting conservative tea party organizations’ tax exempt status forwarded the email to another IRS employee, and inquired about a possible audit of the Iowa senator.

Lerner speculated it could be inappropriate for the organizer to pay for Grassley’s wife to attend. The second IRS official dismissed Lerner’s suggestion, and said an audit would be a premature action.

Of all the people at the IRS at the time, why was Lois Lerner chosen to head the Tax Exempt & Government Entities Division of the IRS? Because there was a liberal bias already present. Remember, Lois Lerner worked for the Federal Elections Commission prior and displayed a clear pentient for attacking Republicans and ignoring Democrat Party shenanigans.

Before Lois Lerner was embroiled in the IRS scandal, she was involved in a questionable pattern of law enforcement at the Federal Election Commission that mirrors the discrimination recently exposed at the nation’s tax-collection agency.

One of Lerner’s former colleagues tells National Review Online that her political ideology was evident during her tenure at the FEC, where, he says, she routinely subjected groups seeking to expand the influence of money in politics — including, in her view, conservatives and Republicans — to the sort of heightened scrutiny we now know they came under at the IRS.

General counsel’s reports composed during Lerner’s tenure at the FEC confirm Engle’s recollections of a woman predisposed to back Republicans against the wall while giving Democrats a pass. Though Noble, then the FEC’s general counsel, is listed as the author of the reports, sources familiar with the commission say that given Lerner’s position, she would have played an integral role shaping their conclusions.(Read the rest at National Review)

It is clear to us at SUA that this is what comes from cult-of-personality trumping sane, logical, and sustaining politicians, people that are ‘Americans First’ politicians. The ideological entrenchment is here to stay unless America collectively overcomes this tide. This is what we get when we toss rule-of-law to the curb and elect personalities, those who thrive on the cult-of-personality.

Heck, there is now a $1 Million bounty for her emails. We may never find them, unless more investigation is done. Our bet lies with civil litigation underway now from those aggrieved through the discovery process. People like Catherine Engelbrecht and many others deserve “redress of the grievances.”

The House Ways and Means Committee under Chairman Dave Camp has referred Lois Lerner to the DoJ for criminal investigation, but we see little hope that Eric Holder will do anything there. It is time for a Independent Counsel or Special Prosecutor.

McCarthy – The Internal Repression Service

The revenue agency has become a tool for suppressing speech.

By Andrew C. McCarthy – National Review

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Through months of Obama administration stonewalling, the redoubtable Judicial Watch perseveres in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, finally uncovering bombshell documents that have eluded several congressional investigations.

For the second time in a matter of days, we find that standing oversight committees with competing subject-matter jurisdictions and limited attention spans are incapable of the grand-jury-style probe needed to get to the bottom of administration lawlessness.

For that, in the absence of a scrupulous special prosecutor reasonably independent from the Obama Justice Department (not gonna happen), it becomes clear that a select committee will be necessary.

Just two weeks ago, the scandal involved the cover-up of administration duplicity regarding the Benghazi massacre. (See my related article in the new edition of National Review.) Now, it is the targeting of conservative groups by the Internal Revenue Service.

For a year, the administration and IRS headquarters in Gomorrah by the Potomac have attempted to run an implausible con-job:

“The harassment of organizations opposed to Obama’s policies by an executive-branch agency had nothing to do with the Obama administration — it was just a rogue operation by an IRS office in Cincinnati which, though regrettably overzealous, was apolitical, non-ideological, and without “even a smidgen of corruption.”

The story had about as much credibility as the administration’s “blame the video” script that Susan Rice dutifully performed on the post-Benghazi Sunday shows, or the Justice Department’s 2011 assurance to Congress that its agents would never knowingly allow the transfer of a couple of thousand guns to criminal gangs in Mexico. The “Cincinnati did it” yarn has been unraveling since it was first spun by IRS honcho Lois Lerner and, soon afterwards, by President Obama himself. The lie has now been exploded by e-mails clawed from the IRS by Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act suit.irs-lied-to-congress-820x48

These include one from a top IRS lawyer in Washington succinctly explaining in July 2010 that “EOT [i.e., the revenue agency’s “Exempt Organization Technical unit” in Washington] is working Tea party applications in coordination with Cincy.” “Tea party applications” were requests by conservative groups to be granted tax-exempt status under Section 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code. By selectively setting aside their applications, delaying the conferral of tax-exempt status to which the law entitled them, and putting them through inquisitions that violated their constitutional rights to political speech and association, IRS headquarters prevented them from raising funds and organizing as an effective opposition.

The e-mails elucidate that Cincinnati’s strings were being pulled in Washington: “We are developing a few applications here in DC and providing copies of our development letters with the agent [in Cincinnati] to use as examples in the development of their cases.” “Tea party applications,” IRS headquarters elaborates, have been isolated as “the subject of an SCR” — meaning “sensitive case report.” To “resolve” such cases would require “coordination with Rob” — a reference, Judicial Watch contends, to Rob Choi, who was then a high-ranking IRS official in Washington.

It is no more conceivable that IRS headquarters was off on its own anti–Tea Party witch-hunt than that the subordinate Cincinnati office was. The fuse, it must be recalled, was lit by the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision in 2010, affirming the First Amendment’s prohibition against government restrictions of political speech by corporations. The ruling enraged the Left and prompted the president’s tongue-lashing of the stunned justices during the 2010 State of the Union address.

At this point, it remains unclear which, if any, administration officials were — to borrow the delicate term — “coordinating” with the IRS. It is manifest, though, that in the atmosphere charged by Obama’s impertinence, congressional Democrats felt empowered to push the IRS to undermine free political speech through administrative intimidation. Judicial Watch’s FOIA suit reveals correspondence in which Senator Carl Levin, the powerful Michigan Democrat, agitates for IRS action against several conservative groups. In accommodating responses, then-IRS deputy commissioner Steven Miller takes pains to assure him that flexible regulations enable the revenue agency to design “individualized questions and requests” for targeted Section 501(c)(4) applicants.

2014-05-15-b672324fAfter a damning Treasury inspector-general report last year, even the IRS concedes that its singling out of conservative groups and obnoxiously intrusive demands for information were “inappropriate.” In truth, they were blatantly unconstitutional. As is always the case in Washington scandals, the question of whether crimes were committed arises — and now, the companion question of whether lawmakers who encouraged executive lawlessness are guilty of crimes.

For the time being, the lawsuits brought by conservative organizations victimized by the IRS have alleged only civil wrongs: principally, the deprivation of their constitutional rights to free speech and association, and of their statutory right to tax-exempt status. Nevertheless, these claims could trigger criminal jeopardy. For example, federal law (specifically, Section 242 of the penal code) makes it a crime for a government official to “willfully subject[] any person . . . to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.”

Without a competent, impartial investigation, it will be tough to amass sufficient evidence to prove a willful violation of law. The officials implicated would surely claim — however dubiously — that they were just trying to enforce ambiguous regulations. Moreover, even if executive-branch officials could be proved criminally culpable, any prosecution of members of Congress would face a severe roadblock: the broad constitutional immunity lawmakers enjoy whenever arguably engaged in “legislative acts.” Remember Representative William Jefferson, whose crass acceptance of bribes did not stop a federal appeals court from invalidating an FBI search of his Capitol Hill office.

In any event, as I argued here last weekend, to focus on criminal or civil liability is to miss the point. The importance of government officials lies in the public trust reposed in them and the awesome power it entails. When they demonstrate themselves to be unworthy of that trust, the imperative is to take the power away.

The IRS has become a vehicle of repression — one that Democrats have further empowered through Obamacare. Its budget should be slashed, and we should figure out better ways to raise revenue. In addition, government officials have engaged in conduct that, at a minimum, grossly disregarded the constitutional rights our government exists to safeguard. Whether such serious misbehavior is attributable to incompetence or corruption, the officials who engaged in it should be defrocked. Most of us couldn’t care less whether they are sent to jail or successfully sued, but we should all insist that they no longer wield power.LernerLewMiller

The most ominous development in the IRS scandal is the confederation of executive and congressional authority in opposition to our fundamental rights. The accumulation of all government powers in the same hands, Madison warned, “may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.” In a free society, powers must be separated. The Framers thus gave us a Constitution that heeded the wisdom of Montesquieu:

When the legislative and executive powers are united in the same person, or in the same body of magistrates, there can be no liberty; because apprehensions may arise, lest the same monarch or senate should enact tyrannical laws, to execute them in a tyrannical manner.

The IRS scandal presents a textbook case of tyrannical execution. It is fraught with peril. We are dealing not merely with a single president, who presumes to rule by decree; nor just with his congressional partisans, who presume to pull the executive bureaucracy’s coercive levers. Enormous power is cumulating in an ideological movement that is hostile to free expression, one that views its political opposition not as fellow citizens with a different point of view but as enemies to be silenced and destroyed.

Frightening times.

— Andrew C. McCarthy is a policy fellow at the National Review Institute. His next book, Faithless Execution: Building the Political Case for Obama’s Impeachment, will be released by Encounter Books on June 3.

EDITOR’S NOTE: An error in this column as it originally appeared has been corrected, as explained here.

IRS Hearing – The 'Circus' of the Left & the 5th by Lerner

By Scott W. Winchell, Editor

Today’s House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing on the IRS Scandal lasted less than 25 minutes, most of which was a ‘Circus’ with Elijah Cummings, the Ranking Member as the ‘Ring Master’, all to provide political cover to the IRS and the administration as new ‘smoking gun emails’ emerged.

The purpose of the hearing, as Chairman Issa took pains to make clear, was solely to continue seeking testimony, or the lack thereof, from Lois Lerner, the former Director of the IRS’ Exempt Organizations Division.

As Issa attempts to leave after adjournment, Elijah Cummings goes on a tirade.
As Issa attempts to leave after adjournment, Elijah Cummings goes on a tirade.

Before this hearing, there was much discussion about whether or not she would give actual testimony, and her lawyer and Issa had differing takes on what was actually said in communications prior.

Today he proved it in his opening remarks. There was an email from the committee’s counsel to her lawyer asking if she wanted a week delay, to which, in an email response comprised of a single word, her lawyer replied: “Yes!” (Emphasis added)

We encourage you to watch the entire hearing because despite Lerner declaring her fifth amendment rights repeatedly, a major scene occurred, and the ‘Circus’ began.

Ranking Member Elijah Cummings went off on Issa in what can only be described as an attempt to provide political cover for the administration.

Issa was not going to allow that circus to perform, because that is exactly what the Democrats were trying to do. It then deteriorated into a farce thanks to Cummings, the ‘Ring Leader’.

By watching the whole video, you will see how that rolled out.

Initially, it is very hard to tell if any Democrat other than Elijah Cummings and Ms. Maloney was at their seat when Issa opened the proceedings. As Issa asked Lerner several questions after reaffirming her oath, she declined to answer any of them.

It became abundantly clear to any critical thinking American that his questions were all prosecutorial as they should be. Seeing that she would not answer him, that meant she would not answer anyone’s questions, Republican or Democrat.

As the hearing begins, we see very few Democrats in their assigned stations. They only came in later to support what was obviously a pre-planned staging to support Elijah Cummings.
As the hearing begins, we see very few Democrats in their assigned stations. They only came in later to support what was obviously a pre-planned staging to support Elijah Cummings.

Knowing full well that if he went further and allowed each member to take their five minutes each, Issa knew it was just going to be a set of political statements from the left. Many would argue that the right would do the same thing, but Issa knew that too would be undue, though very unlikely, so he adjourned the hearing. However, by this time, a few Democrats had emerged to take their seats, filtering in only to support Cummings.

Cummings then erupted when he requested an answer to a procedural question and was cut off because he had no procedural question. Then it got really political. The man claiming that Issa was doing a political witch hunt, made it clear that the Democrats had another game plan, they were there only to make political statements.

Cummings called it a one-sided investigation, but images and the video show that the one-sided group was the left, hell-bent on political cover, never actually investigating. Since Issa adjourned the meeting and excused the witness, the Republicans had left but Cummings drolled on, initially in a very heated manner.

Elijah Cummings rants and raves after the mics were cut off and you can see, only a few Democrats were at the hearing, all to Cummings left. By now due to adjournment, the right side is now empty.
Elijah Cummings rants and raves after the mics were cut off and you can see, only a few Democrats were at the hearing, all to Cummings left. By now due to adjournment, the right side is now empty.

Cummings spoke without the sound system on and acted as if the hearing was still proceeding, for almost as long as the actual hearing lasted. It is clear when you watch and listen as the CSPAN system picked them up, that Cummings never had a question, he just wanted to have his political say. Unfortunately, that was a formal hearing, not a place for political soap box stumping. At the start the only seats filled were on the right of Issa, after it was adjourned the only seats filled were on his left.

The 'smoking gun email' where Lois Lerner writes "The Tea Party Matter is very Dangerous"
The ‘smoking gun email’ where Lois Lerner writes “The Tea Party matter, very Dangerous”

We ask again, who is being political and who is actually doing oversight? The left smears the right and accuses them of doing what they themselves are most guilty, making a political mockery of a formal hearing that affects every American.

In our opinion, Cummings should be brought up on ethics charges for his and the actions of his party at this hearing, and the others previously held.

They spout that they are there to find the truth, but they never actually ask questions to get to the truth.

But when the Republicans ask pointed prosecutorial questions and present factual instruments, the left calls them political hacks obsessed on taking down this most scandalous administration. On the left you can see an image that Issa showed at the hearing that points out that Lois Lerner calls this “Tea Party matter, very dangerous.”

Once you have viewed the video of the hearing, please note the second video of the exit interviews on Fox News.

Every American, left or right, should be hopping mad at what the “Cummings Crew” is doing to make sure no one is held responsible and to allow the IRS to continue to intrude on our first amendment rights.

It is also of note that due to Issa’s investigations, with the help of Congressman Jim Jordan and Trey Gowdy, new individual names, agencies, and evidence are involved and tangible proof will likely lead to the FEC and perhaps contempt of congress for at least Lois Lerner.

Near the very end, one Democrat on the Committee can be overheard saying that by Issa leaving after adjournment, “He took the fifth Elijah,” now wasn’t that cute to answer Cummings question, “what are you hiding Mr. Chairman?”

Here is the actual hearing in full:

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Here is the interview video:

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